Posts by Crooked Lumpy Vessel

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Which break-up song has ever spoken to you the most?

by imallgrowedup in

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for me, it is faith hill's, "let me let go".

any other suggestions?!

i thought it was over, baby.

Crooked Lumpy Vessel

Oooops. forgot the other half of the song....

and love the light that brings a smile
across your face
Oh god if you're out there won't you hear me
I know that we've never talked before
oh god the man I love is leaving
won't you take him when he comes to your door
Am I in heaven here or am I in hell
at the crossroads I am standing
So now you're sleeping peaceful
I lie awake and pray
that you'll be strong tomorrow and we'll
see another day and we will praise it
and love the light that brings a smile
across your face...
Hold on
hold on to yourself
for this is gonna hurt like hell

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Which break-up song has ever spoken to you the most?

by imallgrowedup in

jw
friends

for me, it is faith hill's, "let me let go".

any other suggestions?!

i thought it was over, baby.

Crooked Lumpy Vessel

"Hold On" - by Sarah McLachlan

Hold on
Hold on to yourself
for this is gonna hurt like hell
Hold on
Hold on to yourself
you know that only time will tell
What is it in me that refuses to believe
this isn't easier than the real thing
My love
you know that you're my best friend
you know I'd do anything for you
my love
let nothing come between us
my love for you is strong and true
Am I in heaven here or am I...
at the crossroads I am standing
So now you're sleeping peaceful
I lie awake and pray
that you'll be strong tomorrow and we'll
see another day and we will praise it

12

Do you wish......

by Strawberryfieldsforever in

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do you wish that you could have lived in another time period?

i'm talking about like the early 1900's or late 1800's or any other time?

even the depression time?

Crooked Lumpy Vessel

I think the world has always been a scary place. Although the times were simpler which I am definitely for, there was also influenza, polio, small pox and various others diseases without cure. I think in reality its all the same 'poop' but different day. But today's world is very different compared to the thousands before.

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My life as a JW began at birth in 1969 - amazing story

by Dogpatch in

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my life as a jw began at birth in 1969

anonymous

my father?s mother had been brought into the truth sometime in the mid-50?s, and he went along with her.

Crooked Lumpy Vessel

Your experience was very touching. I think there are a lot of us here who can relate to your story. For the first time in my life...last year to be exact I realized that most of the decisions I made in the "truth" were made by others. Even things that were suggestions and a "matter of conscience" were translated down as law. Me...being of low self-esteem and loathing always did as I was told.

In speaking for myself it was a lot of the little things that made me bitter. Last October during the 2 day assembly, I was talking with a sister I just met during lunch who had lost her baby at 35 weeks. It was a very traumatic expereince for her and we talked at great lengths, with hugs and tears. Completely through lunch. She was showing me pictures of the baby and funeral pictures. She had an album put together that she carried with her. My heart went out to her and I was trying to be a comforting sister to her. I didnt realize that the lunch hour was over. I saw the men and women washing and pulling up the tables, one by one as they got closer and closer. I was trying to hint around that it looks as if they are trying to tell us to get back to our seats, but the sister kept talking and I kept listening with tears in my eyes and a pit in my stomach of sadness for her.

Next thing I know there is a washcloth sloshing up next to my elbows and the sister that was washing the tables never said a word but just kept hitting my elbows with the dirty wash cloth. There was no smile, there was no "excuse me". She just had a look of the 'wicked witch' from the 'Wizard of Oz'. Finally, I guess I got the hint. Me and my hubby packed up our lunch that we did not get to eat and went to our car and drove away for the rest of the day. What love I felt that day. A huge turning point for me.

We stopped off at Hershy Park and visited the chocolate museum and went on a train ride. Kids were all getting Holloween candy and having fun. I thought about all those poor kids back at the hall sitting in chairs all day while these other kids got to be kids. I looked at my son and wanted him to have fun memories but I wanted him to have a good relationship with Jehovah too. The guilt I felt that day was awful, but I survived. I had never done anything so disobediant before. But as I got older I started questioning things instead of just excepting them.

I have tons of other stories leading up to that day and little by little I will finally get to express them through this forum.

Welcome.

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the aftermath

by the mole in

my uncle called for my dad and wanted to know why he stopped attending meetings, he then asked me what hall im attending.

first i told him my dad could only answer why he does what he does and then i told him i had difficulty with alot of teachings that are curious.

after talking for awhile i asked him why if the magazines are a tool for bible understanding then why is it that so many take it as bible truth?

Crooked Lumpy Vessel

I didnt get to finish my post. What he did was what obedient JWs do. His head started to hurt and he got scared. Those questions cast doubt and he got afraid.

My point is... if it casts doubt but is the truth, then whats more important living in the bubble or truth?

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the aftermath

by the mole in

my uncle called for my dad and wanted to know why he stopped attending meetings, he then asked me what hall im attending.

first i told him my dad could only answer why he does what he does and then i told him i had difficulty with alot of teachings that are curious.

after talking for awhile i asked him why if the magazines are a tool for bible understanding then why is it that so many take it as bible truth?

Crooked Lumpy Vessel

I doubt his gears are turning.

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Greetings

by DireStraitJacket in

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thought i should say hello to everyone .

i've been browsing the jwd for more than a month now, and i'm finding it to be an amazing source of info.

i stumbled upon this site because i was looking for info about the wts money collection policies (aka.

Crooked Lumpy Vessel

Welcome Aboard. I have been inactive since November. I did go to a handful of meetings between December and January and the Memorial. It feels good to talk among friends who have expereinced the same beatings. I am not saying that everything I learned was trash...but the way I was treated was like trash.

I have also learned a lot about things here that I was not suppose to know about I guess. I spoke to my younger baptized sister about the UN thing and when I came home today there was a message on my answering machine, she said that she thought it might be a hoax but she would look into it further. When I called her back, she said "never mind...I found it on the UN site". She said she was going to put it in her bookbag and do her own research. But she also mentioned something else pretty interesting.

Apparently in her hall a brother received an email from another brother who received it from another brother etc. etc. etc. Basically a letter that is going around the hall stating that an unidentifed group has made a suggestion to the UN to ban religion. My sister wrote a letter to the UN to check out its validity. I told her not to hold her breath. Its like trying to call the President and have him call you back. (Not in a million years unless your name is Dick Cheny) Anyway, I laughed and told her "wouldnt it be funny if the unidentied organization was the Watchtower (a.k.a some other name) trying to force their prophecy?" She gotta laugh too.

Anyway, welcome.

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Candy Fun...

by Sassy in

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how well do you know your candy bars?

only one guess per person, per half hour .

Crooked Lumpy Vessel

DOH!!!....I'm sorry. Apparently I have trouble following directions. I just saw all that candy and went crazy. I dont know how to remove my previous post.

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2004 District Conventions of Jehovah's Witnesses

by jwnews in

2004 district conventions of jehovah's witnesses

this summer jehovah's witnesses will host 211 conventions in 63 cities in the contiguous united states.

the public is invited to attend any of these three-day events, which will feature free bible-based presentations under the theme "walk with god.

Crooked Lumpy Vessel

Hey guys...didn't you read. God is going to be there and we get to take a walk with him.

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How did you feel about yourself when...

by Lady Lee in

someone close to you left the jws either on their own or were dfed or daed?.

i believe that at least in my family the fact that more have left than have stayed in (in both the ex-marriage and the with my siblings) that the ex and my mother have some sort of mission to prove they are right.

i know my mother had doubts about her relationship with god (as defined by the wts).

Crooked Lumpy Vessel

My Brother in Law left a couple of years ago I was just sad. My heart felt broken. I think this is because I was indoctrinated with the belief that he was going to die in the big A. I did not want him to die. I love him and my sister dearly. Both are good people.

I never shunned my sister or my Brother in law. But his leaving caused a huge riff in their relationship. He was in the truth for 15 years and now he was not. The elders would talk to my sister and tell her how it is now her responsibilty to care for her children's spiritual needs. "Their blood in on her hands now" She was no longer invited to places in fear that her husband would be there. Friends whispered behind her back. Some even badgered her children about what was going on. Next...she leaves the truth. I continued to be their only friend. Everyone else in the congregation gave them a hard time but I still continued to go to my meetings. However, the more the friends were treating my sister harshly the more I started to listen to my sister rather than the friends. I began doing some research myself. And now I am at a crossroad and I understand more than ever where my brotehr in law was coming from. The friends of course treat me as bad.

Now I am a classic fence sitter. The WTS has been a part of my life since 1987. Its hard for me to take everything I believed to be true for so long to be a hoax. I am at a crossroad myself and am not sure what I am going to do in the end. But I love this site and found that there are so many who were/are just like me. I finally found a forum that I can express my thoughts/fears/concerns etc. without being pre-judged. Although I still hide behind my alias for fear of persecution.

So in answer to your question...Other.